COE Converstion

bushpilot · 11-16-2011, 04:22 PM

http://www.westsidemotorcoach.com/Ar...gosy_Specs.pdf

Trevor308 · 11-17-2011, 07:28 PM

looks nice, great upgrade from my isuzu, one can only dream

bushpilot · 11-17-2011, 10:29 PM

that dude is smokin' some SERIOUS dope asking 1.4M !?!?!
Im still trying to figure out how he arrived at the price when he says -

Freightliner (Tractor) - 125k
Options - 319k
Base Total ??? - 1.043m

he'd never get 319k for it let alone 444k (tractor+options) where he comes up w/ this BASE TOTAL is beyond me !

theres plenty wrong w/ it imo -
the REAR (king pin) deck - the FENDERS are not flush w/ the deck...
they rounded the counter top / bathroom sink...and then put a <square> drawer under the counter....look at the drawer corner sticking out

#90-GTSC · 11-17-2011, 10:47 PM

Legally, how long of a trailer could you have with this?

bushpilot · 11-17-2011, 11:11 PM

guy i bought my conversion from towed a 36 foot stacker - he was over 75 feet long <combined>

Don Mcl · 11-17-2011, 11:48 PM

when i first looked at their add and saw those pictures, my first thought was,

1.4 million and they can't even get the pictures right.

Bob86ZZ4 · 11-18-2011, 08:58 PM

I like it, Don, and Don. I'm going to go check it out. But I need to make sure they can fit a stripper pole in.

Good catch on the sideways picture. That's how they can keep the asking price so low, they don't pay their tech guy very much.

orangepeel91 · 01-25-2012, 05:57 PM

The Surface Transportation Assistance Act of 1982 allows a 48' trailer with no overall length limit. In other words if you could figure out how its perfectly legal to pull a 48' trailer with a greyhound bus-but it has to be registered as a truck tractor.

bushpilot · 01-25-2012, 09:02 PM

if thats the case why do i see 52 and 54 foot TRAILERS being pulled by OTR Trucks ??

orangepeel91 · 01-25-2012, 11:04 PM

Thats easy-you don't see them with tractors that long.
I only quoted STAA which has no overall length limit so you could therefore use any length of tractor.
While there are 52' trailers only a relative handful exist. No such creature as a 54' trailer. The 53' trailers that you see do not conform to STAA and therefore there IS an overall length limit. 75'.
That Argosy is too long to be 75' overall when hooked to a 53' trailer.
Based on the picture alone I estimate overall length with a 53 would be somewhere between 85 and 90'. that makes it 15' overlength.
However if you use a 48' trailer instead there is no overall length limit and the length of the tractor no longer matters.
That said there is a guy in Wisconsin that pulls a 53' trailer with a REALLY loooooong Diamond Reo Giant that in no way shape or form even comes close to 75'. I believe he is somewhere around 93'. How he gets away with it without permits is beyond me.

11-16-2011, 04:22 PM	#1
bushpilot Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tomball Posts: 124	COE Converstion http://www.westsidemotorcoach.com/Ar...gosy_Specs.pdf __________________ Don R. '04 Haulmark 42', 2 slide, 10kw - Pictures '04 F350 CrewCab Longbed 4x4, 50g aux tank & gear vendors dbl over

11-17-2011, 07:28 PM	#2
Trevor308 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Goonellabah, NSW, Australia Posts: 1	looks nice, great upgrade from my isuzu, one can only dream __________________ 97 Isuzu NPR 200, 4.3 liter diesel, 5 speed Yes it's my truck. No i'll not move your furniture..

11-17-2011, 10:29 PM	#3
bushpilot Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tomball Posts: 124	that dude is smokin' some SERIOUS dope asking 1.4M !?!?! Im still trying to figure out how he arrived at the price when he says - Freightliner (Tractor) - 125k Options - 319k Base Total ??? - 1.043m he'd never get 319k for it let alone 444k (tractor+options) where he comes up w/ this BASE TOTAL is beyond me ! theres plenty wrong w/ it imo - the REAR (king pin) deck - the FENDERS are not flush w/ the deck... they rounded the counter top / bathroom sink...and then put a <square> drawer under the counter....look at the drawer corner sticking out __________________ Don R. '04 Haulmark 42', 2 slide, 10kw - Pictures '04 F350 CrewCab Longbed 4x4, 50g aux tank & gear vendors dbl over

11-17-2011, 10:47 PM	#4
#90-GTSC Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Grafton, Wisconsin Posts: 120	Legally, how long of a trailer could you have with this? __________________ #90 Heilig-Meyers Ford NASCAR Winston Cup car, Ronnie Hopkins chassis, Joe Rhyne motor, Jericho trans, Ford 9". 99 Suburban 1500 & 24' trailer, 08 Chevy HHR, & 04 Saturn Ion. Looking for 379 or 389 Peterbilt conversion, 24' to 30' box, bumper pull.

11-17-2011, 11:11 PM	#5
bushpilot Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tomball Posts: 124	guy i bought my conversion from towed a 36 foot stacker - he was over 75 feet long <combined> __________________ Don R. '04 Haulmark 42', 2 slide, 10kw - Pictures '04 F350 CrewCab Longbed 4x4, 50g aux tank & gear vendors dbl over

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11-17-2011, 11:48 PM	#6
Don Mcl Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 20	when i first looked at their add and saw those pictures, my first thought was, 1.4 million and they can't even get the pictures right. __________________ 2008 Haulmark 3303TS, MBE 4000

11-18-2011, 08:58 PM	#7
Bob86ZZ4 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 827	I like it, Don, and Don. I'm going to go check it out. But I need to make sure they can fit a stripper pole in. Good catch on the sideways picture. That's how they can keep the asking price so low, they don't pay their tech guy very much. __________________ '03 Freightliner FL112, 295" wheel base, with '03 United Specialties 26' living quarters, single screw, Cat C12 430 h/p 1650 torque, Eaton 10speed , 3.42 rear axle ratio

01-25-2012, 05:57 PM	#8
orangepeel91 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 5	The Surface Transportation Assistance Act of 1982 allows a 48' trailer with no overall length limit. In other words if you could figure out how its perfectly legal to pull a 48' trailer with a greyhound bus-but it has to be registered as a truck tractor. __________________

01-25-2012, 09:02 PM	#9
bushpilot Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tomball Posts: 124	if thats the case why do i see 52 and 54 foot TRAILERS being pulled by OTR Trucks ?? __________________ Don R. '04 Haulmark 42', 2 slide, 10kw - Pictures '04 F350 CrewCab Longbed 4x4, 50g aux tank & gear vendors dbl over

01-25-2012, 11:04 PM	#10
orangepeel91 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 5	Thats easy-you don't see them with tractors that long. I only quoted STAA which has no overall length limit so you could therefore use any length of tractor. While there are 52' trailers only a relative handful exist. No such creature as a 54' trailer. The 53' trailers that you see do not conform to STAA and therefore there IS an overall length limit. 75'. That Argosy is too long to be 75' overall when hooked to a 53' trailer. Based on the picture alone I estimate overall length with a 53 would be somewhere between 85 and 90'. that makes it 15' overlength. However if you use a 48' trailer instead there is no overall length limit and the length of the tractor no longer matters. That said there is a guy in Wisconsin that pulls a 53' trailer with a REALLY loooooong Diamond Reo Giant that in no way shape or form even comes close to 75'. I believe he is somewhere around 93'. How he gets away with it without permits is beyond me. __________________

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