Quite Possibly the easiest way to remove lug nuts - Page 2

andyg · 01-31-2012, 11:23 AM

Don, I'm a little confused. Do you recommend running the air tool dry? Running it dry will certainly make it wear out faster. All I suggest is a couple of drops periodically. More oil will only make a big mess anyway. I certainly agree about lubricating the theads like you say. In my experience, penetrating oils do work but it takes days or weeks for them to soak into the joint. Sometimes we cannot wait that long. It never hurts to give it a shot of PBlaster though. You are correct about potential damage with the hammer method. If you do this you must use care and not beat on it endlessly. If it does not work with a few hits it probably will not work at all. Even so, you can loose 1 or 2 studs out of 10 and still make it to the next shop. The large air hose idea might not work on the side of the road but it will help you at home in the shop. You could rig a ping tank to use with the truck's air supply but that is to much stuff to lug around "just in case".

bushpilot · 01-31-2012, 11:30 AM

no i recommend proper air tool maint. NOT dumping oil in the gun to increase the pressure (and blow out seals).

I think were in agreement CAUTION before desperation

Loosen 'em NOW, perform the maint. on them NOW, and the job will be easier LATER <on the side of the road, or in a campground>

andyg · 01-31-2012, 12:13 PM

Hey Don please don't think that I am trying to argue with you. I am using our discussion as a way to learn something new. I never even thought about using oil to increase internal pressures but I see your point. I worked in a maintenance shop that either ran the tools dry or used WD-40 in them. They never could understand why those tools had to be rebuilt often.

"I think were in agreement CAUTION before desperation Loosen 'em NOW, perform the maint. on them NOW, and the job will be easier LATER <on the side of the road, or in a campground"

I could not agree more. Some of the suggestions I made would not be possible on the side of the road.

#90-GTSC · 02-01-2012, 07:41 PM

Now I've learned two things tonight!

bushpilot · 02-03-2012, 12:22 AM

Andy - Understood & Agree w/ you. Ive seen TOO many mechanics in an act of desperation FILL their tool w/ air tool (or other) oil as a method of increasing the output/torque of their gun.

Gordy · 02-07-2012, 09:25 PM

Loosened lots of these with spline drive impacts, torque multipliers, torch etc but the easiest way was hitting them with the hammer (at least 3 lb) Hit the inner nut on the square drive portion to bend it down from the seat (saying that-it doesn't deflect that much) then spin them off with a decent 3/4 drive impact.

shijing · 03-06-2012, 12:51 AM

Very nice. They call it the "reation bar" what I'm wondering how you support.

01-31-2012, 11:23 AM	#11
andyg Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 63	Don, I'm a little confused. Do you recommend running the air tool dry? Running it dry will certainly make it wear out faster. All I suggest is a couple of drops periodically. More oil will only make a big mess anyway. I certainly agree about lubricating the theads like you say. In my experience, penetrating oils do work but it takes days or weeks for them to soak into the joint. Sometimes we cannot wait that long. It never hurts to give it a shot of PBlaster though. You are correct about potential damage with the hammer method. If you do this you must use care and not beat on it endlessly. If it does not work with a few hits it probably will not work at all. Even so, you can loose 1 or 2 studs out of 10 and still make it to the next shop. The large air hose idea might not work on the side of the road but it will help you at home in the shop. You could rig a ping tank to use with the truck's air supply but that is to much stuff to lug around "just in case". __________________ AndyG 1989 FLD120 with 2000 NRC conversion

01-31-2012, 11:30 AM	#12
bushpilot Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tomball Posts: 183	no i recommend proper air tool maint. NOT dumping oil in the gun to increase the pressure (and blow out seals). I think were in agreement CAUTION before desperation Loosen 'em NOW, perform the maint. on them NOW, and the job will be easier LATER <on the side of the road, or in a campground> __________________ Don R. '04 Haulmark 42', 2 slide, 10kw - Pictures '04 F350 CrewCab Longbed 4x4, 50g aux tank & gear vendors dbl over

01-31-2012, 12:13 PM	#13
andyg Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 63	Hey Don please don't think that I am trying to argue with you. I am using our discussion as a way to learn something new. I never even thought about using oil to increase internal pressures but I see your point. I worked in a maintenance shop that either ran the tools dry or used WD-40 in them. They never could understand why those tools had to be rebuilt often. "I think were in agreement CAUTION before desperation Loosen 'em NOW, perform the maint. on them NOW, and the job will be easier LATER <on the side of the road, or in a campground" I could not agree more. Some of the suggestions I made would not be possible on the side of the road. __________________ AndyG 1989 FLD120 with 2000 NRC conversion

02-01-2012, 07:41 PM	#14
#90-GTSC Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Grafton, Wisconsin Posts: 174	Now I've learned two things tonight! __________________ #90 Heilig-Meyers Ford NASCAR Winston Cup car, Ronnie Hopkins chassis, Joe Rhyne motor, Jericho trans, Ford 9". 99 Suburban 1500 & 24' trailer, 08 Chevy HHR, & 04 Saturn Ion. Looking for 379 or 389 Peterbilt conversion, 24' to 30' box, bumper pull.

02-03-2012, 12:22 AM	#15
bushpilot Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tomball Posts: 183	Andy - Understood & Agree w/ you. Ive seen TOO many mechanics in an act of desperation FILL their tool w/ air tool (or other) oil as a method of increasing the output/torque of their gun. __________________ Don R. '04 Haulmark 42', 2 slide, 10kw - Pictures '04 F350 CrewCab Longbed 4x4, 50g aux tank & gear vendors dbl over

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02-07-2012, 09:25 PM	#16
Gordy Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Grand Forks BC Canada Posts: 63	Loosened lots of these with spline drive impacts, torque multipliers, torch etc but the easiest way was hitting them with the hammer (at least 3 lb) Hit the inner nut on the square drive portion to bend it down from the seat (saying that-it doesn't deflect that much) then spin them off with a decent 3/4 drive impact. __________________

03-06-2012, 12:51 AM	#17
shijing Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1	Very nice. They call it the "reation bar" what I'm wondering how you support. __________________ welcome to my website scarpe hogan ,the most popular one is Uomo Scarpe Beige Hogan Olympia.

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