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Old 03-11-2006, 04:40 AM   #1
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Opinions as to which truck is the best to use for a conversion project ?
I have a Volvo now , but the grass is always greener and I am eying a t2000 but would like to get some input from others
I don't care for the Freightliner much but I am told it is the best for converting cause every company already uses that unit!
I took a coranado out for a spin detroit powered like my volvo with an auto and I was not impressed

My volvo rides like a 15 ton caddy , its quite mushy, very quiet , handels very good till you start pushing it !
I am more of a BMW type of person and would like a firmer more precise type of handeling !
Any sugestions on what trucks to try? t
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Old 03-11-2006, 06:12 AM   #2
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A BMW X5!!

You are fighting the laws of physics with these trucks. I have driven both the T2 and my Kingsley is built on a 780. The T2 seemed somewhere between the Freightliner and the Volvo, more towards the Volvo but not close enough for me to call them equals.

That's my $.02.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:27 PM   #3
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Here is my $.01 cents. As a long time Pacaar Owner and Fan. The newest large Conventional Volvo Model beats them all. When it comes to motors I am sorry to say that a Big Block Volvo also is on the top of the list. When it comes to all the things from Comfort,Room,Quality and the way it Handles,Pulls,Rides and Construction it can't be beat. Go Drive one for a couple hours loaded and empty and you will love it. They are giving Pacaar a run for there money. I am not saying that BMW and VOLVO Cages are equal but they are close. I have had Volvo Cages for 20+ years and feel the same quality is there in both Truck & Cage The only thing(although proven)I would never have is a Automatic Box. I really think it's a Mental thing on my part. I learned to drive on Triplex & Quad Boxes,And that was a long time ago. Depending on application any 13,15 or 18 spd.RR with Double O.D. is the Cats Ass. Well I think that was more then a penny's worth.

PLEASE NOTE: Even though I just posted a Recall reference about VOLVO under Announcements, I do not recall any other HD Truck Mfg. recently doing anything but taking a cruise down the DE-NILE RIVER. Even IH ended up in Court before they did anything back in the mid-late 90's
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As a long time Pacaar Owner and Fan ... They are giving Pacaar a run for there money
Did you mean Pacaar or "Paccar", Inc, the corporate owner of Pete and Kenworth?
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So sorry, Nice Mr. Wallik I did not know that your spelling was perfect. I apologize for any and all inconveince this may have caused you. Am glad to see you can start breakin some stones So maybe there is humor on the left coast.Please feel free to continue at any time Sir.I live for this kind of stuff. I'm just dumb fat &happy on the right coast
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:23 AM   #6
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Anyway.. We like the Freightliner. I have driven the Volvo with a roll off body and didn't care for the turning radius or the ride. What I did find amusing was you can watch the fuel gauge drop as it's running, atleast in the one I was running. The computer was nice so you could set a shut off/idle time. We like the freightliner ride and turning.
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Old 03-12-2006, 09:03 PM   #7
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My experience in over-the-road rigs is that Volvos give a mushier ride that Freightliners. The Volvo front suspension seems very compliant in bumps and the steering wheel shaft oscillates around more. The worst, I've heard from several sources that Volvo is/was slow/unrresponsive on service and propietary parts seem to come over from Sweeden on a slow boat. I like the gage & switch layout better in Freightliners but the big Volvo cabs & sleepers are just super.

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.....you know gary....sounds like somebody is on a control trip again.....Just out live them and pour a bottle on their grave....I do!....It's kinda of an Irish thing to do!....geofkaye
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Old 03-13-2006, 05:39 AM   #9
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Medent, Its the oscillation in the steering that bothers me most !
I think it is from bump steer from the positive arch in the front springs changing the dimension from the pitman arm to the spindle arm as the suspension works up and down and especially side to side !/?
Of course with the conversion the side to side is increased .

It never seems to bother me when I am on my way to a race and fresh in the saddle , but on the way home , tired at 3:am its a pain in the butt !

I would give up soft for tight but I like quiet and lack of vibration and wont give those up !
When we use the truck as a camper its a non issue and everything is perfect cause we are on a relaxed schedule , However Racing 3 nights a week in 3 different directions we tend to push it a bit and thats when things become noticable!
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On my 95 FL FLD 120, I could see why they called them freight shakers. Suspension did seem stiff even with my 12,500 front end and Brock's air ride. Never had bump steer on that truck, but hated how it drove over 65 mph. Seemed kinda squirrelly.

My 05 M2 the cab is super quiet, no rattling, love how the doors shut, just like my 04 F150 real solid and nice. I do have alot of bump steer on this truck, but for some reason it does not bother me even after 14 hours in the seat. Actually, this truck is weird, when I start out it seems to drive real tight. But over that first hour it seems to loosen up and I like that. The 14,600 pound front end seems more forgiving than that on the FLD. And I can drive this truck 70-75 mph all day long, seems to be it's sweet spot.
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