Join Truck Conversion Today
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 04-19-2003, 08:21 AM   #11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fulltimer
Posts: 22
Default

Mike, The added expense I was referring to was tires, brakes, and aluminum wheels (you don't think I would settle for steel wheels, now do you?).

Larry, there are 2 Jacks here. I only post under my own name wherever I go. I can not remember all the other names....

Jack Mayer
F550 Centurion Conversion
36' Newmar Kountry Star
__________________

Jack Mayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2003, 08:27 AM   #12
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fulltimer
Posts: 22
Default

BTW, on the topic of better resale if left tandem - I am hoping that if/when I resell that class 8's will be more "typical" than they are now and it will be easy to sell to an RVer. I would think with the mileage that we put on that if I kept the truck for 5 or so years that it would still be "low" miles and easy to resell - esp. with the things I will do - like a bed, etc. I may be wrong, but I think the resale market to RVers would be better (price-wise) than to OTR truckers. Although I will admit the market is smaller and it would take longer to sell. Not that I would plan on selling it as part of my buying logic. This is a depreciating asset - NOT an investment!

Jack Mayer
F550 Centurion Conversion
36' Newmar Kountry Star
__________________

Jack Mayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2003, 10:08 AM   #13
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Yorba Linda, CA, USA
Posts: 35
Default

I see what you're saying Jack. The extra cost of the 2nd axle will build over time as added maintenance costs. Since onezman has expressed doubts that the extra axle has any resale or trade-in value given the high volume of axles lying around in salvage yards, my best plan might be to hopefully find a truck with aluminum wheels all around, drive it as a tandem till the tires wear out, then sell the rear alum. wheels to help recoup some of the cost of the tandem to single conversion. The other low cost option would be to perform a do-it-yourself conversion that leaves the front axle in place, as KZX11 did, save the rear axle for possible later substitution, and use the tires as replacements when the remaining axles' tires wear out.
Mike E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2003, 10:20 AM   #14
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fulltimer
Posts: 22
Default

Mike,

If I was tying to cut costs I would try to find a truck with aluminum wheels and good rubber. I would then remove the back axle, sell the wheels and rubber and leave the front axle in place like others have done. Not the neatest job, but functional and you make a little money ASSUMING (and it may be a big assumption) that you can sell the tires and wheels. Then I would chop the frame myself - not a big deal if you have the equipment - a torch and grinder should suffice. I would do this right away and have a single axle rear. BTW, if you don't register as a motorhome, depending on your state, this could save you some money. This is kinda what you are saying, but I would do it all up front while you still have some good rubber to sell.

Jack Mayer
F550 Centurion Conversion
36' Newmar Kountry Star
Jack Mayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2003, 10:45 AM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 193
Default

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jack Mayer:

Larry, there are 2 Jacks here. I only post under my own name wherever I go. I can not remember all the other names....
------------
Hello Jack M.

You and I know each other well through e-mail corrospondence. I had never seen a post by the "Dollarsok Jack" If he has posted in the past, I have not seen them. When I replied to his post I had no idea he was another "Jack"
that I have also had e-mail corrrospondence with.

On another subject, anyone buying a tractor with at least 90% tires will likely never wear them out. New steer tires generally go
at least 130K miles before requiring replacement if alignment etc is correctly set.

Surprislngly (to me anyway) drive tires last even longer. No RVer will ever wear out the transmission or rear axle. I don't care if you buy a tractor with 800K miles. If undamaged at time of purchase, they simply won't wear out. Especially pulling a 20K trailer.

IMO
onezman





Jack Mayer
F550 Centurion Conversion
36' Newmar Kountry Star<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
onezman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2003, 06:59 PM   #16
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Yorba Linda, CA, USA
Posts: 35
Default

Jack,

Yes, that was what I meant, chopping the frame right away if I did it myself. However, from what Larry says, if I wait for the tires to wear out, I'll be waiting a long time. While I was an OTR I had a few flats but I was loaded to 80,000# and maybe that just doesn't happen when using it as an RV. BTW, converting to a single doesn't save any money here in California since it is still considered a commercial vehicle unless it is converted to a motorhome and the weight tax is based on whatever its original GVWR was, which would be 80,000+ and cost about $1700 extra. To make matters worse, after Larry warned me that I would probably have only 30 days to do the conversion and register the truck, I checked and found that in California I only have 20 days. For that reason I may check the law in every state and buy the truck in a state in which I can register it as a non-commercial vehicle so I can gain a little bit of time to do the conversion. Since my parents live in Florida and I know that Bill (warpath) originally registered his FLD that way in Florida so he could drive it home, I may be able to do the same but I'd like to find out how much a non-commercial registration there actually costs.


Larry,

I have been checking the laws carefully here in California and it appears that on paper, as long as you are registering as a motorhome it doesn't matter if you have a single or tandem axle. However, despite that, in practice it may be more difficult to convince a skeptical DMV official to actually register a tandem as a motorhome when they don't even want to register singles.
Mike E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2003, 10:58 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 193
Default

Mike,

I dont think I would want to try to register a tandem as a motorhome in CA. I have sold two 610s that are now registered as motorhomes in CA. Bill was the first. My second buyer, Ted had considerably dificulty getting his registered. At least two DMV offices refused to register it. He did get it registered as a motorhome last week. Congrats to Ted.

I sold a third Volvo that will be headed for CA as soon as the buyer heals up from kneecap replacement surgery. Dave will have two known previous registrations with Vin numbers to fall back on. Dave may still run into difficulties, but I know he will get it registered as a motorhome.

Some DMV people seem to want to give you as much grief as possible. I have been flatly refused myself. Just know the requirements, if your truck meets them , it's a matter of persistence.

onezman

[This message was edited by onezman on April 20, 2003 at 02:30 PM.]
__________________

onezman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.