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Old 10-16-2012, 06:09 AM   #1
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Hi all.

I have been checking out this site for a while now and I figured I'd post up my project now that I have actually started.

I am involved in a offroad race sport called ultra4 racing where I race a rock crawler. For the past 3 years I have been hauling my rig all over the country with a pickup and an enclosed trailer. It is not really any fun to drive and not the safest thing on the road for sure.

I finally pulled the trigger on a 1999 Kenworth t-300 expedite truck with a 24' box and 6' sleeper. It has 550k miles on it. I had been watching the truck for months on craigslist and the owner of the truck dropped his price to $10k I finally went to look at the truck. As it turns out the truck is in great shape. It has had an in chassis rebuild on the the engine (cumins isc) a new turbo fan clutch radiator batteries and front runners.

the only issue I have found with the truck is that the boot between the sleeper and cab was bad. It was a pretty easy fix and the cab is now dry.

My plan is to build out the front 8' of box to be a camper and the rest will be garage for my race rig.

The first thing I figured I would work on is aquiring parts. One stop to the local rv dealer and I was able to get a 30' fifth wheel camper with roof damage for a few hundred dollars. It had some good parts inclduding windows doors A/C heat awning. I also had an old truck camper which had a ton of good parts as well which stripped for parts as well.

Right now I am trying to figure out a layout that works both for racing and camping with my faimily. I attached a screen shot from solidworks of what I have been playing around with (I am an engineer by day) For sure I will make a pass through from the sleeper to the box and do some type of seating in the sleeper that can fold out into a bed as well. I figure I can use the under body on one side for tanks and the other side for race related storage.

I am interested in any input I can get.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:09 AM   #2
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Looks like it will be a great build!
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:55 PM   #3
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I think it will work great. For an idea about how to set up the sleeper portion check out what Hawk did here: Balin Family - I like that setup. Opposing jacknife sofas that fold flat to make a nice bed. Showhauler has done that too. I'm guessing making the pass through to the box from the sleeper might be the most difficult. Check out 40's Rock's thread: Portal

Great plan to scavenge parts off that 5ver. Keep us posted with pictures.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:04 PM   #4
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I think it will work great. For an idea about how to set up the sleeper portion check out what Hawk did here: Balin Family - I like that setup. Opposing jacknife sofas that fold flat to make a nice bed. Showhauler has done that too. I'm guessing making the pass through to the box from the sleeper might be the most difficult. Check out 40's Rock's thread: Portal

Great plan to scavenge parts off that 5ver. Keep us posted with pictures.

Hey thanks for posting up. That is exactly the stuff I am looking for. The sleeper setup is sweet. My friend just got me some parts from a conversion van. I am going to see If I can make the sofa and captains chairs fit in there some how.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:19 PM   #5
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T300 should ride very nice. I came close to using a T300, but I couldn't get the price I wanted. It looks like you're planning is sound. I can't wait to see it complete.
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How are you going to get the rock crawler in the back? Let it crawl up?
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T300 should ride very nice. I came close to using a T300, but I couldn't get the price I wanted. It looks like you're planning is sound. I can't wait to see it complete.
It is funny you mention the ride. I haven't even ridden in it yet. In Ma I need to get it converted to a camper before I even bother with registration.

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How are you going to get the rock crawler in the back? Let it crawl up?
My friend runs a scrap yard and he gets rental truck ramps in as scrap quite often. My plan was to shorten two of them up and make a place between the frame rails where I could slide them in like a u-haul.

Here is a pic of the new car I am building.
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Your find is remarkably similar to mine in respect to miles, rebuilt engine, and box size. The only significant difference is mine has an auxilliary axle, which is of little use to me and will stay stowed forever because I doubt I ever load Moby sufficiently to justify lowering the axle. In fact, if there's a market for it, I would sell it.

Naturally, everybody has a different vison of what makes the perfect truck, but there are some similarities, e.g. cooking, eating, sleeping, working, and sanitary set up. For example, I like your ideas for the garage and sleeping arrangements but I wonder, what are you planning for SSS (shit, shower, and shave) facilities?

I presume the plan is to reuse components from the 5th wheel find, but where are you planning to install toilet, shower, and sink? I wonder because I didn't notice them in your drawing. Speaking of which, I had to zoom the browser to 400% to see much of anything, how about emailing me the .sldasm drawing so I can eyeball it more closely?

email: info at sanfordmachine dot com

Meanwhile, I've different plans for Moby, my conversion, because my garage space is for a modeling workshop instead of a car. That said, I would love to figure out a way to load a car because I am into them too: http://www.hobbytrading.com/private//62gto/

Does your truck have a lift gate built onto the back of the truck? Mine does and I obtained a piece of 8" aluminum channel for loading my Harley (to have wheels on location), but this won't lift a car. I am thinking maybe ramps, but they would have to be very long for a street car. Regardless, this is low priority for me while ramps are very high priority for you. That, and your kind of vehicle has greatly reduced overhang fore and aft, which makes getting it in and out of your truck far easier.

Finally, I think I've sussed out the SSS facilities for Moby - thoughts in the Moby build thread but please keep your thread going, it looks like a very interesting project.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:15 PM   #9
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The plan is to have a full bathroom with shower and toilet. The living quarters will be pretty tight since I need 16' of garage space for my toy. The sw files arent quite done yet.

This weekend amongst many other things I managed to spend a bit of time on working on the truck. Someone removed one of the air horns and did a half a$$ed fix on the one remaining air horn. Since the headliner was out of the truck as well as all the insulation I went ahead and filled the holes in the roof and installed two new roadmaster air horns and put the headliner back in.

My good friend got me an electric bed and two captains chairs from a conversion van. The bed and two captains chairs will be installed facing one another on either side of the sleeper. This area will double as a dinette as well as passenger space. For our cross country trips I plan on taking 4 people total so there can always be a driver and co-driver at all times.

I have the sleeper just about gutted. The next step is going to be to cut in the pass through to the box from the back side of the sleeper. I have already picked up the Boot material. I found this place called Uni-grip. They sell the accordion boot seal material for $3 dollars a foot which is half of the next cheapest place. I had to buy about 40 feet, because I replaced the boot between the sleeper and cab as well.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:51 PM   #10
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I have been making some headway on gathering parts. I picked up a '98 onan 7kw gas genset last night for $600 dollars. It hadnt run in 5 years and after I cleaned the carb I got it running but it didnt put out any power. With a bit of web searching I found that it was common to have the brushes and the surface they ride on get dirty and not make good contact. Sure enough It was dirty and it it is a working gen set.

My Plan right now is to get the pass through and side door cut in.

First question, What should I do for the floor in regards to insulation?

The truck has a solid hardwood floor and 3" steel Ibeams to support it. My first thought was to insulate right over it,and put down a new subfloor but I am thinking that a good strong floor sanding and some poly might be a good tough floor substrate for free providing I could insulate the bottom side.

Any input is appreciated.
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