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Old 06-25-2010, 07:40 AM   #1
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I am new to this forum and see lots of big rigs, I am looking at a E450 box with a 7.3 diesel. It has a living quarters in the box, I pull a 16 foot extra height v nose trailer. Is it enough truck? Would a double over drive make since? It has a 410 rear end, The truck has a sink and shower and gen box installed. I need to a bathroom, dinnete bed.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:41 PM   #2
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I have not bought yet what should I buy?
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Old 06-29-2010, 04:43 PM   #3
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what year is it? is it the old 7.3 or newer electronic engine? electronic power stroke would be better engine. either way it should be a good truck. make sure hitch is heavy duty. older engines are good for about 180,000 miles before needing head gaskets. last about 250,000 miles. newer engines go about 200,000 before they need injectors ($350.00 each). have customers with 300,000 miles and no problems.
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:44 PM   #4
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Its a 2001 with 66k miles, I currently am using two gas pickups that only get 7 to 8 mpg pulling the trailer.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:54 PM   #5
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Wadesgames, I did some of the same evaluating when I upgraded to a Truck Conversion. I was using 16' Isuzu NPR box trucks. They are great around town, but suck over the road. That flat front is like pushing a garage door down the highway. After considering MPG, hotels, etc., It was more cost effective to build a 24' half truck, half RV, and live in it while on the road. I haven't done all the numbers, but I believe it paid for itself in two years. I think you're headed in the correct direction.

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Old 06-29-2010, 08:55 PM   #6
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I like your truck and started looking at some bigger trucks,I worry about driving something that heavy across the church lawn, I do most of my setups on grass. Most of my work is within 200 miles of the house, but a place to cool off and take a shower after setting up is real attractive.
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:26 AM   #7
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wadesgames,
I checked out your website. very cool! I deal with churches as well. I install sound and video in churches. Doesn't that trailer leave grooves in the grass? very cool business though.

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I went out today a drove a npr with a 14 foot box its pretty small, starting to think that I would like something larger, like yours so I could have a living quarters and the back as a garage for storage. With the truck and trailer does having the living quarters make it so I dont need a CDL.
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The CDL is on weight. the GVW has to be under 26k lbs. Once you have water, cooking, and sleeping units installed, get it re-titled as a motor-home. Being titled as a motor-home does the following:
1) no more stops at weigh stations
2) cheaper insurance
3) no DOT numbers and inspections
4) no more paperwork and fuel taxes, etc.

check with your local authorities for any difference.

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my 2 cents (you get what you pay for it):

I'd be very careful using something licensed as a motorhome / "not for hire" for something used for a commercial venture. You may get by all the scales and LEO's as a RV, but if you were to ever get in a serious accident, someones attorney is going to find out that it is actually a company owned and on the road for a commercial purpose (getting your equipment to/from the work site) and thus it should and better be insured as a commercial vehicle $$$.

Once the insurance card says its commercial I would think that the state issuing the plates would see both your commercial ownership XYZ Sound and Games LLC and the commercial insurance certificate, then apply the duck test, I think you will find that you are a duck and a CDL is required.

Even North Dakota where farmers can drive the most clapped out trucks on the road are getting busted daily for hauling for hire or barter, the neighbors grain, cattle or Farm equipment. Then the no CDL for farmers rule gets tossed and the tickets get expensive.

I'm starting to see more and more 1 ton pickups and service trucks around her with not only DOT numbers but annual safety inspection stickers on them. Not sure why but the bigger oil, wind tower and the coal companies must require them. It isn't the same oilfield I grew up in .
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