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Old 02-01-2003, 11:17 PM   #1
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Met Lonnie at a Swap meet in Columbus Ohio today.....thought that a hands-on lookie-see would would convince me to go one way or another....WRONG! Now I'm more confused than ever...can't make up my mind whether to go with a Showhauler or a Volvo 610 and trailer.....Decisions Decisions....build date for my Showhauler would be Oct. 1st. if I want it by Christmas....nothin' easy these days.....Warpath is correct, It is the best construction/finish I have seen and they can build what I want, the way I want it.....I got a lot to think about till Oct. 1st....If any of you guys can arrange it, look at a Showhauler before you make up your mind on a RV of any size/cost....The only real improvement I could see is greater insulation values in the box walls and ceiling but they can double it using foam panels...R14 ceiling and R7 walls....better than most housed built before the late seventies...fit and finish and quality of materials is top of the line.....geof
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Old 02-02-2003, 03:16 PM   #2
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Geof -

Glad you got to see one up close. Keep us posted on your decision. Do you have a idea of what truck you would use if you go with a Show Hauler?

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Old 02-02-2003, 05:00 PM   #3
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Either a Volvo or a Freightshaker with the areo front end.....I gotta look at some this week....crappy weather and all is slowing me down some....with a Showhauler I don't need a sleeper so a regular cab will do and that means a lower cost unite and also a wider variety of unites to choose from....gotta' have a N-14 with a super 10 that is white in color might stay with the dual axels instead of single rear axel because of additional traction and stability-but then again I just have to get off the sofa and go out in the weather and look......geof
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Old 02-03-2003, 12:09 AM   #4
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You might check out trucks w/ removable sleepers as they are sometimes cheaper than daycabs (the used market prefers daycabs, pushing price above sleeper-equipped trucks). Another plus with the detachable sleeper is you usually won't have to cut a hole in back of the cab for the walk-thru.
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Old 02-03-2003, 02:46 PM   #5
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thanks Gary for the heads up.....I started to look today but this weather sucks and I really didn't have my heart into a search with these gray days and all....geof....maybe tomarrrow....
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Old 02-03-2003, 02:59 PM   #6
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Geoff:

Dual axels do not necessarily improve traction. They improve the floatation and may keep you from sinking into a surface, but you need enough psi on a tire surface to get the tread to work and deform a bit, to get a grip on a surface.

My post on building my own, the combination of aggresive tread and single axel dramaticly improved my traction on slipper surfaces.

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Old 02-03-2003, 05:55 PM   #7
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Geof -

One other item to consider on the single vs. dual axle. If you will be building a 28 or smaller motorhome and will not be pulling a big transporter a single axle will ride much nicer. With a single air axle your rear rating will be 20,000 lbs and double that for the tandem. Do not even consider springs in the rear, your ride will be horrible.

I will also mention that my 28' conversion is 40' long overall with a wheel base of 336". This is lonnnggggg! I went from a 30' motorhome to 40' which is only 10', but it is a huge difference in maneuverability. All secondary road turns really need your attention and you can very easily get yourself into trouble if your not careful. I have seen quite a few 45' and even 50' conversion and I can't even image how you get those around secondary road intersections

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So Chuck.....when you push the button on the dash, of let's say, a volvo to lock up the rear axels...how could this not improve your traction over a single axel?....you got two axels driving instead of one....doubling the tractive effort...and multilying it by four if there were Detroit Lockers or some such installed....geof
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Old 02-03-2003, 07:23 PM   #9
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Bill-another issue is a trailer for additional vehicles....I haven't even thought about the weight/towing thing yet.....maybe another 10,000#....I have to weigh my toad[TDI] and bass boat/airboat and figure that out....geof
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Hey Jeff, I've also been kicking around the idea of a Volvo 610 for a conversion (down the road). But what's killing me is how it will look. Have you (or anyone else) done a photoshop mockup the 610 with a conversion on the back? Maybe even with the sleeper in place? Thanks.

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