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Old 06-21-2005, 02:27 PM   #11
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another thing 'bout the city ride is that they disconnect one side of the height adjustment to activate the city ride----- this means that the two rear shocks are not working together-- an' on mine this added to the rolling motion. now--- if you enjoy that---- mase

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Old 06-21-2005, 10:31 PM   #12
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is that to say the rear shocks don't work at all or just in the city ride position?. I didn't notice a substantial amount of body roll.

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Old 06-22-2005, 09:50 PM   #13
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the shocks do work but the air bags are separate and work like two air bags which compress independantly. -- mase
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Old 06-24-2005, 04:40 AM   #14
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cjc -

Sorry to hear about your troubles. One problem with conversions is that they are custom, and with every one built there are probably new issues that pop up. I think any info you can provide about issues is going to help others when they configure their rig. Overhang, wheel base, tandem or single axle and tongue weights are all huge items to consider in your conversion design.

How long is the overhang? I would think 12' would be max, but I am sure there are longer. On my first unit I had a 10' overhang, which never dragged. The problem for me was the 28' wheel base which made my turning radius quite huge. That setup was awesome on the highway, miserable in tight places. The new one has a 11' overhang and so far no dragging issues. Should Show Hauler swayed me from building with that long of a wheel base? I know they sway people from going any longer, but as far as telling you all of the issues that come along with a certain setup, I am sure they feel that is the owners responsibility.

I am not a good person as far as telling people about problems with his Show Hauler. My 02 was flawless as far as issues. A couple of very minor things popped up, but where all little things that I easily fixed myself. I am on my first trip in my new Show Hauler right now and as soon as I get back next week I will post my thoughts, experiences and issues. Just a few issues; my Norcold fridge has a blown pc board so it will only run on propane, and a small leak in the shower which was easily fixed with some silicon caulk. I have a few minor design issues which I will expound on next week, but they are very minor.
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Old 06-25-2005, 07:53 PM   #15
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My Norcold had the same issue. Blown panel and only running on LP. Took about 4 hours to repair since they had to pull the entire fride out of the cabinet.

Hope the rest of your trip goes well.

I love my city ride switch. Whenever I see an apron or major grade change coming I hit it and it only takes a 20 -30 seconds to lift my backend in the air. As far as the rocking motion goes, I only use it when I am going slow anyway and usually I am hitting the apron at an angle so there is going to be rocking anyway. Sure it may cause some additional but that does not bother me one bit.
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Old 06-25-2005, 08:37 PM   #16
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.......huummm....kinda like the posures on the street with their lo-riders....hit the switch and the vehicle raises/lowers about 10 inches...that is an idea for the after market group to offer for MH's ....a lift system[air] to raise and lower the coach.....kinda like a city crip bus that kneels at the curb so a gimp can get on[I'm one-so don't get nutzo on me for my descriptions-I'm talking about myself]....the height issue is the number one reason for my car hauler trailer instead of a 5th wheeler....I can make it into the trailer no matter how bad things get[crutches walking/walker or wheel chair] by either the ramp or the side door....Some days getting into the tractor is a real "task" my knees don't want to cooperate without causing me pain....then..... the next day I can "almost'' run[fat chance of that].....but a tractor that would kneel is an interesting issue....I am considering a toter design with the trailer with a additional rear entrance If my knees/neck/back go south....I was thinking of adding a electric over hydraulic folding step[like a small lift gate] that would raise me to deck height so I didn't have to climb into the cab the usual way....If I need it in the future....then a regular "back door" into the toter part of the cab with usual entrance into the tractor part of the cab......geofkaye- " in the what if mode again"
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:44 PM   #17
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What is the maneuverability diferences between a 41' Columbia truck conversion vs a 41' Class A on a freightliner chassis if the both had a 50 degree wheel cut ?
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:28 PM   #18
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Originally posted by BWhite:
What is the maneuverability diferences between a 41' Columbia truck conversion vs a 41' Class A on a freightliner chassis if the both had a 50 degree wheel cut ?
It would depend entirely on the wheelbase of the unit in question, which could vary widely within any overall length envelope. A short WB on a unit with a lot of front and/or rear overhang would of course turn a lot tighter than the same length unit with the axles closer to each end of the unit. All this is assuming that the 41' Columbia length includes the total length of the rig, not just the coach. Does this help you?

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