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Old 07-19-2004, 07:15 AM   #31
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Well, I haven't had the final yet. When I first went to DMV they started the registration as commercial and told me I had to get a weight ticket to complete the reg process. I did notice it was commercial until after the visit. When I went back, they told me I would have to have it reinspected. they also told me that the CHP could do it and I would not have to bring it to DMV. I went to the CHP and they will not inspect it to make the determination if it is an RV, they will only inspect the VIN.
So now I have to make another appointment to have it inspected at DMV. Will let you know what happens after I get it there.
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:31 PM   #32
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....if it doesn't work call Gov. AH-nold...he will take care of it!....keep us posted ....I think your on to something here that will hepl others on this forum.....'pecially in California....geof
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Old 07-22-2004, 07:04 PM   #33
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I have three customers who live in CA. All three were able to license and register the 610 Volvo conversion they bought from me as motorhome. It can be done.

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Old 07-22-2004, 11:02 PM   #34
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i bought a 95 fld and stretched it and added a 28 box with all the motorhome goodies. had to have it inspected, show pictures inside and out and also show all reciepts for all major items (not that they probally cared if you stole anything or not) but if you didn't pay tax on any of the items when you bought them they wanted 6% sales tax even on all the stuff you buy out of state and had shipped to you.
also had to supply a nice discription of how it was built. 6 weeks later my 52,000 gvw motorhome title arrived and the registration is $81 i noticed in the pa manual that they would not approve the title transfer if it still had a fifth wheel hitch or cargo area. if you buy new and the unit comes titled as a motorhome i don't how they would ever know. last year we tried to have a friends unit done in ohio and the said that once it had been registered as a truck it couldn't be changed although if you send to a place like showhauler i think you get a totally new title and vin# what does your tile say warpath is the vin # the same as the original truck vin# just curious mine is considered modified and retains the original vin#
i haul a 32 car trailer with my 38'motorhome and have no cdl the pa cdl manual says rec vehicles are exempt but it doesn'y say anything about pulling a trailer although my license says anything over 10,001 you need one. i know of several racers pulling car trailers over 10k with pickup trucks have been stopped and parked because the driver did not have a cdl i plan to get cdl just in case. but will not be stopping at the weight stations it's a big grey area if and when i get pulled over it's purely 100% recreation and show don't ever say you race (cars bicycles or anything ) cause if you can win a trophy or ribbon thats a monotary prize then your a commercial vehicle there's always that prick cop just trying to make somebodys life miserable
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Old 07-23-2004, 05:32 AM   #35
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The police around here actualy setup at the entarance to the pit gate at the local race track and check for cdl's. I've spoken with the DOT officer and their approach is, that if you race and recieve any monetary award.....YOUR COMMERCIAL! I also agree with you that if the trailer is over 10,000 pounds you need a cdl in Pa. The big question is, does that include RV trailers? LOcal DOT thinks that it does.

Too damn many people trying to interpret laws wrote by lawyers. Imagine that.
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:22 AM   #36
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The sad part is that in Pa. if you bought a diesel pusher motorhome that weighed forty thousand pounds and pulled your racecar trailer, nobody would even bat an eye at you.
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Old 07-23-2004, 10:22 PM   #37
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....jts...your buddy that was trying to register in Ohio was mistaken-there had to be another issue involved-an ODOT E
nforcement Officer is working with me[and his son] on my conversion Volvo....it took less than 1/2 hour to do the paperwork and it cost $8.00....Ohio is one of the more cooperative states [why, I don't know....GOV. TAFT is a neighbor maybe?....That didn't help at all.] I have the same Vin# and it just says 98/Volvo/MH on the Registration #09505-Y....I'M looking at the origional as I type so I make no mistake.....If the cargo area is an issue just put a water tank on it when/if you have it inspected....That was a suggestion form You Know Who...geof
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Old 07-24-2004, 07:53 PM   #38
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The only way your race car rig is commercial in respect of monetary winnings is if you register your race car as a business and it becomes a taxable or tax write-offable business. Winning a prize, money or trophy is no different to driving your car to a Casino and winning either a jackpot or as little as 5 cents on the slots.

Arizona told me that as long as I don't carry goods for reward, in otherwords I can carry anything of mine I like as long as I am not selling it or have sold it and am delivering it, and I am perfectly legal. But I will have to pay the Heavy Use Tax if the 5th wheel or load space was still there.

I can also down grade the GVWR of the truck to fit any relevant weight groups I wish to fit into. BUT, best I don't get caught weighing more than I declared. So if there is an issue over towing vehicle weight and trailer combined weight, I could have the vehicle registered as no more than 26,000 lbs GVWR, if that would help.

Some States don't even put the weight on the title or registration once it becomes an RV as it no longer matters.

Maybe one can just register oneself as a company and build one's own RV and then issue a new vin# for a remanufacturered vehicle just like Show Hauler does.

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Old 07-24-2004, 10:28 PM   #39
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....Ohio is only worried about the fifth wheel hitch issue-without air lines the hitch issue becomes a moot point. If they check anything it's going to be the air brakes/lites and general condition of the vehicle....DOT Enforcement doesn't site the driver-Just the company-they will call state Police if necessary or suspect anything unusal....but as long is you don't get into a pizzing match with the DOT-E you are going to be on your way in a few minuites....geof
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:30 PM   #40
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i just got pulled over this week end coming threw ohio i was just following traffic when we came by several police cars on the side of the road and they waved us in. nothing was said about a cdl. he just said i thinks your rig is a little over 4 tons and the speedlimit is 55 not 65 like the cars. he politely wrote me my ticket 67 in a 55 and sent me on my way.
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