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Old 07-07-2004, 05:41 AM   #21
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Like Geof says - Once you have a MH designation from a conversion-friendly state, you are grandfathered wherever you go. Just take your MH paperwork into your home state's DMV and they would recognize and register it as a MH - no questions asked. The problem is the initial registration in a conversion friendly jurisdiction. One must think creatively to do this in some cases.

I just picked up the recently revised SOP #T-270 for Alaska DMV. Good thing I titled my Volvo 770 conversion last September. While the required (permanently installed) life support systems have not changed, two notes have been inserted which state:

1. Regular Sleeper Cabs - Cannot be converted to motorhomes.

2. A truck-tractor pulling a commercial trailer cannot be classed as a motorhome. The trailer can be classed as a travel trailer.

This raises several interesting questions: What is a "regular sleeper cab?" and what is not? Apparently truck tractors pulling non-commercial trailers can be classed as motorhomes. Apparently commercial trailers can be classed as travel trailers.

I fully intend to pull my 44' (formerly commercial - now non-commercial) step deck Landoll sliding axle trailer behind my Volvo 77o motorhome. I plan to treat it just like any other private cargo trailer.

I have posted more discussion on this topic at the Escapees MDT forum, here, if interested in reading more.

http://escapees.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x...6776#773106776
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Old 07-07-2004, 06:35 AM   #22
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The idea of grandfathering a motorhome from another state has been tried. I have a friend that did it this way and it worked for about 8 months. The state recinded all toterhome and like registrations back to truck registration.

While I agree that it would be possible to set up a trust or other enity in another motorhome friendly state. How long until the other states do the same and recind those registrations? From the sounds of posts here and elsewhere it appears that more and more states all going in that direction.
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Old 07-07-2004, 02:39 PM   #23
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Exactly my concern, to spend all that $$$ then get a letter in the mail...I kind of have the feeling that this is the way this is moving, they want some $$$, looking at doing a streight GVW registration but then will need a CDL...
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:02 AM   #24
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Don't try the grandfathered thing in Arizona. They have been known to inspect the vehicle for more than just the Vin#, such as compliance for use. Having a motorhome title in one State will not guarantee you getting it here, especially if the temporary conversion consists of a Coleman gas grill and a mattress on the floor.

What they told me was that the CDL did not come into it as long as the vehicle did not weigh or its GVWR was not stated as being over the 26,000 lbs. unless it's a motorhome, when there is no max weight. The only thing they were interested in was whether the vehicle could still carry a load. For example, a rear load area with a roll up door or a 5th wheel style hitch. If the vehicle is not like this, then it comes under all the old regulations that pertain to a motorhome. If it has the load capabilities, then all they want is the Heavy Use Tax, and unless you are pulling or carrying a load, they don't require a CDL either.

Things are still okay pulling a trailer as long as the trailer does not have a GVWR of over 10,000 lbs as it then alters the GCVWR (combined). At this point it started to get a little more confusing as to whether a CDL was then necessary and since my trailer is under the 10,000 lbs, I didn't look into it further.

That's my info on this subject. It just takes time to research this in the Statutes, and when you find what you think are the correct laws, then let us all know and then print it out and carry a copy with you in your vehicle.

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Old 07-08-2004, 09:36 PM   #25
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....then some jerk wad state Registration nazi will interpert it form a differant angle and the issue will start all over again....do it right the first time -follow the rules -conform and be nice when confonted.....geof[ this is coming form a guy that was 10 for 10 on the golden rule before he was 21] OY! Maybe that is why I got gray hair......
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Old 07-08-2004, 10:19 PM   #26
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I am in the process now of trying to register an out of state truck that was formerly registered as an RV. California will not 'grandfather' it as an RV and it must be inspected. I put a 14ft box on the back and pull a 31ft toyhauler. The thing that worries me is that the box on the back could be used to carry a commercial load, although it will never be used for that purpose. I put polished diamond plate in the back. It is used to haul my racing motorcycles.

Hopefully I can convince the inspectors that this is truly an RV. I will let you know how it goes.

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Old 07-17-2004, 03:38 PM   #27
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.....So Oakland Mike:....HOw did it GO?...beeen waiting for your results...geof
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.....So Oakland Mike:....HOw did it GO?...beeen waiting for your results...geof
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.....So Oakland Mike:....HOw did it GO?...beeen waiting for your results...geof
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NOW what happened!...'puter hiccups?.....OY! geof
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