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Old 01-21-2006, 07:27 PM   #1
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Wow! These are some very long Toter's Could you actually make a corner in a small town with say a 30' or 40' trailer?

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Old 01-21-2006, 09:18 PM   #2
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Could you actually make a corner in a small town with say a 30' or 40' trailer?
In a word, NO!!!!
At least, not in my town......
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......guys! ya just got to learn to drive a really big rig!....and have insurance when you can't!!.....The only idea that really jumps out at me is the bathroom near the side door-I have mine in the "V" nose area and it is very handy and out of the way and very private....other than that I don't see really big differances if Race Coaches or any other unite on the market...other than Race Coaches seem rather dark inside-but maybe it's the camera and the cameraman that is doing the shot......geofkaye
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Old 01-22-2006, 01:41 AM   #4
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Well I am going to add my two cents here if you guys don't mind, These truck turn remarkable well. Out West there are alot of what they call "Truck & Trailer Combinations" as opposed to "Tractor & Trailer" they are in all types of configurations.(Flatbed,Vans,Tankers,etc.)The newer ones are alot better turning and steering.Having setback front axle,Less radius from the wheel lock to lock,Cab height,Hoodslope and Visibility. The main thing to remember is it bends 30+ feet behind you instead of 8-10 feet behind you. No matter what,it has to follow you. The approach is modified but it still has to follow you. Well that paragraph wasn't even worth $.02. My simple mind is tainted with useless information.

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Old 01-22-2006, 04:32 AM   #5
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Yeah I am not knocking these guys, because obviously there is a market or else they would not be building them. I just look back to my FLD with a 28' wheelbase and that thing was a p.i.t.a. on secondary road intesections. I was also pulling a car and you cannot backup with a car in tow, at least with a trailer you can.
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Old 01-22-2006, 04:45 AM   #6
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To go along with what Marc said, these long ones will make the corner easier than a standard unit. On the shorter units the truck may clear the corner but the trailer will not follow in the truck's tire tracks. The longer ones have the advantage that if you can make the corner with the truck the trailer will follow in its tire tracks fairly closely. With my unit I am over 83 ft long. I have made it into some very tight spots that the other guys with a toter home and long trailer can't make the same turns. If I knew geometry I could give you a mathmatical reason but even helping my kids study for their exams hasn't helped me remember what I used to know!
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Old 01-22-2006, 09:09 PM   #7
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.......another consideration would to put a ram powered hitch plate and bed on the end of 2- 4X4 square steel tubes like Powerhouse did for one of their rigs that pushed out the trailer from the truck about 5 feet and allowed for a wider turning radius.......I can't find the pix of course but it was 2 square tubes with a hitch on the end that came out from behind/under the truck bed and gave the effective radius on a turn an increase to have the trailer track better......geofkaye
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awww... that front axle screams for mercy
the front axle has to be grossly overloaded
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To go along with what Marc said, these long ones will make the corner easier than a standard unit. On the shorter units the truck may clear the corner but the trailer will not follow in the truck's tire tracks. The longer ones have the advantage that if you can make the corner with the truck the trailer will follow in its tire tracks fairly closely. With my unit I am over 83 ft long. I have made it into some very tight spots that the other guys with a toter home and long trailer can't make the same turns. If I knew geometry I could give you a mathmatical reason but even helping my kids study for their exams hasn't helped me remember what I used to know!
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That is true to a point. For instance, twin 28' pup trailers will go places a 53' will not. Beyond that, a toter this long may be fine out west but in the confines of small east coast towns there is no way to make many of the turns.
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Old 01-24-2006, 10:11 PM   #10
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....can we use the term "belly broke" here?...geofkaye
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Old 01-26-2006, 11:08 PM   #11
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Hey Guys, I think I will add $.04 cents this time. I have this plastic milk case with this useless information in it, So I guess it has to go somewhere. A couple friends of mind were talking about this at lunch again today. Years ago on the Road Trucks we ran 90% of them had liftable tag axles on the Power unit & the trailer. We were able to adjust the weight anywhere we needed it if there was a problem at the States Weigh stations. The air valve controls and gauges were in the stylish very well appointed sheet metal cab with a pasta bowl of 3/8" & 1/4" copper tubing running everywhere. I am not old (51) but was pushing those trucks up & down the East Coast at 16 yrs old. AhAhAh the Memories of No Powersteering,NO
Air Conditioning,Very comfortable climate control about Feb.it would start to cool down in the cab,But come March it was hot then hell.And the power we had was the Greatest NA220
hp Cummins,(No-Turbo) The always ready and wet 318 Detroit V8 that could see hills two miles down the road, And those fine crafted transmissions such as the Plex family.Dup,Tri and oldest brother Quadra. Not to forget old Brownie and his siblings. But that was then and this is now. You can't manual adjust anything today. My Perfect Toter would have a complete air panel to adjust the large air bags located everywhere I could stick them. And I don't want to leave out the entertainment centers we had.But thats another story. Marc
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....I remember those old trucks form the 70's namely a White "widow maker"....also known as a White 9000....damn truck nearly killed me driving for 6 months.....so I decided to go back to college and get my doctorate......geofkaye
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:52 AM   #13
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I know both of these trucks. They race in the same series I do. The yellow one with the trailer is 102' long and the black is 98'
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Old 03-04-2006, 08:39 PM   #14
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Wick - is the picture in your linked photos entitled 2003 Show Hauler which shows the MH hauling a trailer what you describe as 83' long, I know depth perception is hard in a picture but it doesn't look at long as it sounds
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Old 03-08-2006, 01:56 PM   #15
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The one titled 2003 is the older shorter unit. With my trailer and the 2006 Showhauler I am over 83ft.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:10 AM   #16
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The yellow Rig belongs to Jack Barfield and is well over 100 feet long in total length. It is the Team Skull transport and the team owner is Tim Tindle I believe. He also has a number of cars running in NHRA in addition to the tree that they have for ORSCA. Mike Ashley drives one of Tim's Funny cars and Pro Mods. The black Rig is Ken Rainwaters. There is also a White one that is about the same size that belongs to Jeff Cooner. All of these guys race in our ORSCA organization.
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They are all used for the most part in the South Eastern part of the country. We race in GA, AL, MS, TN, and possibly some events in other areas but for the most part they are all run on this side of the country. None have had any problems with the DOT at all so far.
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Check this one out. http://www.dejabluemusic.com/truck.htm
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