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Old 11-30-2004, 04:17 PM   #1
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Wondering if anyone can comment on the major differences between the MCI, Eagle and any other type of RV Bus Conversions that a person could find for under $100k.

Sort of a summary. Good and bad points and then maybe a final choice why one is better?

Also curious about floor heights and exterior heights of Truck Conversions vs the Bus Conversion? Which floor and exterior is higher or lower?

And anyone know of the major sellers of Bus Conversions?

I've found these sites:

www.busforsale.com
http://www.staleycoach.com/
http://www.rvweb.net/market/links/pages/Bus/Classified/
http://www.busconversions.com/
http://www.buscentral.com/
http://busbusbus.com/index.php
http://www.rv-busconversions.com/
http://www.rvweb.net/market/links/pages/
www.busnut.com
www.rv-coach.com
www.busbuys.com
www.thebusman.com
www.busconversion.com
http://www.coachinfo.com

Thankyou
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:57 PM   #2
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I posted the same question here rv-coach.com and somebody responded with this answer.
http://www.rv-coach.com/current_cate...read_full.html

There's lots of differences between MCI's and Eagles, but the major ones are:

1. Construction - MCI's are built using mostly aluminum and stainless steel in their skeleton, Eagles are all steel, so they tend to rust more.

2. Suspension - MCI's use airbags (relatively easy to replace, floaty ride), Eagles use the Torsilastic Torsion bar suspension (some feel a superior ride and better handling, but the Torsilastic gets tired & when they run out of adjustment, they are a pain and major $$ to replace).

3. Turning radius - MCI's have their drive axle mounted ahead of the tag (when you turn sharply, the pivot point is the drive axle since it carries more weight). All Eagles except the Model 01 (1960-68) have their drive axle at the rear most position, which makes them have a greater turning radius.

4. Parts - MCI is still in business and while there are plenty of Eagle parts available, they are not as plentyful or reasonably priced as MCI parts, since Eagle has gone out of business (many times).

To sum it up, they're both good coaches - and they both have some good and bad engineering. I think a choice may come down to preference on styling and the right deal. (I hope I wasn't too long winded).
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:40 PM   #3
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...Bravest.....why would you choose a bus over a conversion other than floor height?...geof
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:38 PM   #4
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In case of accident, he wants to preserve his engine and drivetrain and personally be first on the scene.;-)
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:25 PM   #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KAYE RIVERCITY:
...Bravest.....why would you choose a bus over a conversion other than floor height?...geof <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Am I making a gross error by choosing a bus conversion over a truck conversion? I'm new to this so please anyone join in and help educate me.

And what do you mean by floor heigth? The busses have a greater floor height...?

Can anyone go over the major plusses and minuses of each?

I like the idea of the motor being in the back which seems to provide more living space?

Maybe there are more of them available...?

Am I making a terrible error by choosing a bus over a truck?

Please add anything relative.

Thanks.
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Old 12-13-2004, 08:32 PM   #6
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....Gary is correct-in a big way....the most important question is one of COST-unless you are like me and can buy almost anything you want- the up front cost of a bus conversion is just one issue....the other is insurance-when I was looking at a slightly used[22,500 miles] MCI-[Custom Coach some years ago] the insurance was about $3000 a year for the coverage I needed....that was a deal buster right in the Custom Coach's Office-that and the $187,000 for the coach which at the time, was a little high, Today I would jump at it-but the insurance wouldn't happen-never!.....Upgrades are expensive-as over the years coaches get "dated" and need upgrades and uplifts/freshening here and there-graphics sometimes "date" a coach and can cost $10,000 to redue alone.....I'd stick with a conversion just because the upgrades and uplifting/refreshing can be a DIY or can be done by most car interior shops-or even a tent maker like I have here in Cincinnati who does boat interiors....as time goes along a conversion holds it's value where a bus is a major investment that looses 50% of it's value as it rolls out of the manufacture-new. Think I kidding?- look at the number of buses that are for sale and on consignment....January there will be even more in the South....-choose a conversion-save money and cut your costs-now and in the next 5 years....geof
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:46 AM   #7
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It has been a while since anyone responded to this so I will give it a shot. I currently own a Newell coach. It is an outstanding product. I use it 4 days a week currently until I get retired and then i will use it about 4 months a year to flee north out of the Texas heat. The difference between this coach or a bus conversion is maintenance. Many truck stops will not even touch a bus. even though it is the same engine, it is much more difficult to get to and work on. Truck conversions can be worked on anywhere along major interstate highways. I will consider one in the future and am considering building them in my semi-retirement, pardon the pun.

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Old 03-15-2005, 07:46 PM   #8
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Originally posted by BravestDog:
Wondering if anyone can comment on the MCI and any other type of RV Bus Conversions. Good and bad points and then maybe a final choice why one is better?
Although belated, the below link is an excellent pictorial additional to your links illustrating the nuts and bolts of an MCI conversion process.

http://www.walkercoach.com/convprocess.shtml

The 1/8th" custom aluminum skin and thorough frame inspection/ treatment are appealing.

One question from this site specifically addresses truck vs. bus suspension:
61. What's the difference between bus and motor homes suspensions?
An average motor home manufactured in the US is usually a heavy duty truck chassis, modified to run a little softer, with a large box (the RV) mounted on top of it. Technically, this is a suspension, but made from a modified truck chassis.
An over the road passenger coach (or commonly referred to as a tour coach) is designed to carry passengers 24/7. It's design facilitates easy maintenance. It also has a very soft airbag suspension, which is one of the softest rides we can make. A tour coach in particular MCI, is a monocoque configuration, meaning the chassis actually flexes with the suspension. This method has been a proven system for many, many years. Not to mention, this type of chassis is designed for thirty years and millions of miles. So obviously, a coach chassis would be a much better candidate to make into a motor home than a heavy truck.
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.....so how much are you thinking on spending for: insurance-fuel-glass replacement?....I'd think this through very carefully before you start for the nearest bus stop.....I'm not badmouthing a bus conversion-but in my asking questions and checking prices I have found it to be the most sxpensive way of RV ing.....geof kaye
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Old 03-26-2005, 04:44 AM   #10
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We have a bus conversion (MC8) and a HDT conversion --- the bus is awesome -- can't really overload it (unless you pack 30 battery's in it) --- rides VERY well. No slideout -- but good room. We took out the old bus interior (restroom was a bear) and then we designed the interior - no cardboard - no staples.

Only one disadvantage (for us) --- is the engine. Non-turbo 8V71 does not do hills, does not do altitude.

Instead of doing an engine swap for a 4 cycle engine (read $$$$$$) we decided to purchase a HDT and TT for our summer journey's.

We spend 4 months in the bus in S Texas --- travel the US in the truck. (we're in the bus now - will head home Tuesday - truck is parked next to the bus)

Oh.... insurance cost is the same for truck and the bus.

Works for us.

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